Bluebird Hybrids
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:38:47 -0800
From: Sherry Linn goldstrm"at"vip.net
To: "BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu" BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu
Subject: Interbreeding of Bluebird Species & Spring Return
Hello gang! Sherry here in cool Osoyoos, BC elev 2150' on the
border with Washington State directly north of Wenatchee
It's been a while but I have been lurking and was getting almost
to the point of dropping out ... then more Kridler Kronicles,
Springer Specials, Wendell Wisdom started shining through and
with the return of the bluebirds - how could I resist?
Gary asked about interbreeding of bluebird species... we in
BC have seen Western and Mountain mixes on the northern extremes
of the breeding territory. In the past few years, Western Bluebirds
have been slowly extending their range. Where there have been
the odd sightings of Westerns, monitors have reported a Western
female on a nest with a male Mountain in attendance. It is rare,
but it obviously happens. I have a slide of a Mountain/Eastern
hybrid taken (I believe) in Manitoba or Saskatchewan. The slide
is from the NABS presentation selection if I am not mistaken.
Perhaps Doreen Scriven can help out here.
Western Bluebird numbers were higher than usual in our Christmas
Bird Counts (not on my teams unfortunately) and Mountain Blues
were also on the Osoyoos/Oliver count. They came back to my
property on January 31st - a record early sighting for me. Watched
4 pairs at my neighbors yesterday morning. They are checking
out nestboxes but it is far too early for nesting at this point.
Nothing has been deposited in the boxes and I have never observed
what I would consider claim straws. I agree with the comments
though that the birds habits will vary from area to area. The
song of my Mountains is slightly softer than any I have heard
recorded. I have read that bluebirds sing in the early morning
and not generally later in the day ... that has not been my
experience. My bluebirds sing whenever I come out of the house
and they are nearby. I think we all tend to put human traits
on "our" birds - and I for one have no problem with
that at all!
Spring REALLY is coming! Hope to meet many of you in Ohio in
June at the NABS conference. Sherry Linn
PS - thanks for the info on the Backyard Bird Count ... I thought
I'd missed getting my data in and am glad I can still add it!
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:57:16 -0400
From: Haleya Priest mablue"at"gis.net
To: BLUEBIRD-L BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu, Ed Nied enjr"at"valinet.com,
Keith & Sandy Kridler kridler"at"1starnet.com
Subject: Hybrid EABL???????
Haleya Priest Amherst MA
Please help us determine whether this pix of one my nesting
female EABL is simply a drab adult or some hybrid, mutant or
whatever!!! You can view the photos at:
http://www.pbase.com/gallery/enjr/female_bluebird
Ed Neid, the photographer, wonders:
Also, after studying the slides taken at Rt. 116, I think it
is possible your bird could be a Southwest race female as seen
in the Kauffman guide.
To: BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu (BLUEBIRD-L)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:11:52 -0800
From: youdont r knowme ashes-by-now"at"juno.com
hey Karen from south central PA
i done some research, i found the pics of the birds i was watching,,
i have here the easteren blue bird and the westeren blue bird,
sillie me i through the smaller bird was just last years bird,
i didnt know we had westeren blue birds here in KY, the easteren
blue bird is a more stright line bird, the wasteren blue bird
has a larger chest, well i may try a few next boxes with a larger
hole, you know put them close together and see which one they
want to build in, but ever one can rest asured NO HS will build
in one of these blue bird nest boxes, after i have 47 blue bird
nest boxes and just about to run out of room to put them all
and O by the way i have ordered a bluebird monitors guide, we
will see how this blue bird farming goes :-) O PS there is a
few of the boxes that have the start of a nest in it
Al
30 miles north of bowling green ky
To: BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu (BLUEBIRD-L)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:15:04 -0800
From: youdont r knowme ashes-by-now"at"juno.com
both the birds are blue on there back and like a robin on the
brest,, one has more orange then the other, if the pics on the
net i have seen of the easteren blue bird and the western blue
bird or correct, we do have both eastern and the western blue
bird here in KY, i will keep researching and learning all i
can about the blue bird and all the birds as far as that goes,
if i am going to do this i want to do ti right, and to the best
of my ability,
Al
30 miles north of bowling green Ky
From: "Allene Miller" acarlenea"at"hotmail.com
To: BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu (BLUEBIRD-L)
Subject: Re: E. and W. bluebirds
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:56:56 -0600
Al, According to a birding book that I have, The Nature Company
Guides by Forshaw, Howell, Lindsey and Stallcup, the Western
BB has a blue throat and some red on back while the Eastern
BB is bright blue above and reddish below. Allene of the Bluegrass
State
From: "Allene Miller" acarlenea"at"hotmail.com
To: BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu (BLUEBIRD-L)
Subject: Re: what do I think
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:57:18 -0600
I think anything is possible. If the trend of the weather can
change, and the killer bees migrate 100miles North each year,
then why can't the birds cross into each other's territory?
Don't let anyone tell you what you didn't see. Keep records,
take pictures, document, who knows, you might be a first in
something. Allene of the Bluegrass State
To: BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu (BLUEBIRD-L)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:12:40 -0800
From: youdont r knowme ashes-by-now"at"juno.com
none of the blue birds i am seeing have a white bellie
At 09:46 PM 3/13/02 -0800, you wrote:
here is pics of the blue birds that i have here in ky one has
more
orange then the other, the westeren BB has a larger brest
Al
30 miles north of bowling green ky
Does the bird you believe is a Western Bluebird have that blueish/grayish
color on the belly? The eastern bluebird's belly is pretty white.
Kate Oschwald
Paris, TX
100 mi NE of Dallas
33.6853N 95.6293W
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