Bluebird Education & Presentation (Part 6)

I recently sent an editorial to our local papers to thank our city for installing an EABL Trail. It was also a call to interested residents to contact me if they wanted further information. I have had 5 responses so far and have scheduled a couple of visits to go out and help some homeowners. HOSP control is the main service I provide for EABL conservation in my area and the editorial made reference to that.

Editorials to local papers would seem to be a wonderful way to further Bluebird conservation for even the mose timid of Bluebirders as you can provide yourself as a resource and respond with only e-mail if you feel so inclined. Here is the editorial I sent:

Seeing Blue in Powell

As residents enjoy the Powell park system this summer, they may be seeing blue. In the middle of a busy parking lot, by the children's playground, in the center of a quiet cemetery, observant people will see a flash of blue flying overhead or perched on one of the nest boxes that the City of Powell recently installed.

This spring, the City of Powell partnered with the Ohio Bluebird Society and provided nesting sites for Eastern Bluebirds and Tree Swallows in favorable habitat areas. The nest boxes have been very successful and the Eastern Bluebirds are now on their second brood of the season.

Eastern Bluebird conservation efforts have been ongoing in Delaware County for many years. These birds need our help. In many areas of the country their numbers have dwindled due to loss of habitat from construction activities, loss of natural nesting sites because of the removal of dead trees, and loss of safe nesting sites due to man's introduction of the aggressive nonnative English Sparrow or House Sparrow.

If homeowners would like to enjoy Eastern Bluebirds in their own yard, it is relatively easy to achieve here in Delaware County. All it requires is the proper installation of a couple of nest boxes in open, mowed grassy areas and a willingness to control House Sparrows. This is a wonderful hobby to enjoy with children because Eastern Bluebirds are very tolerant of people.
The female lays one blue egg each morning until her clutch of 4 to 6 eggs is complete. Then she begins incubation. In a couple of weeks, the eggs hatch. Children love to watch the eggs magically appear each day and see the chicks during nest checks.

As a Delaware County Coordinator for the Ohio Bluebird Society, I am available to advise and help people who want to provide nesting sites for these birds. Please contact me at: paulaz"at"columbus.rr.com for more information.

I want to extend a special "Thank You" to the City of Powell for establishing this new Eastern Bluebird Trail throughout their park system.

Paula Ziebarth
Delaware County Coordinator, OBS

From: Keith & Sandy Kridler [mailto:txbluebirder"at"sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: New farmland Bluebird trail

I was reading an interesting series of letters and articles early this month of a 2,500 acre Missouri farm where a "care taker" was allowed to add nesting boxes.

I will try to go back and find the exact figures but this is an area roughly equal to a 2 mile by 2 mile square or actually 3.91 square miles. Many small towns or villages are not this large. Most new developments near large cities are this size or larger as they build in malls, schools and churches, parks ETC. as they build residential houses and streets consume a lot of land.

The average size of a corn field in the USA will be about 2,400 acres this year.

Anyway they started with about 30 nestboxes scattered around these 2,500 acres and fledged some bluebirds and other small cavity nesters. They jumped to 60 nestboxes on the farm (about one box for 40 acres) and fledged some 200 bluebirds. Added more boxes the third year but predators appeared and they netted fledging about the same. Ditto for year four. Year five wrapped all poles with thin aluminum sheeting (off set printing sheets from a small town printing press, obsolete now) from the ground up 6 feet to where the nestbox was mounted. Added somewhere around 145 nestboxes or about 1 per 20 acres and fledged around 700 bluebirds + other species.

Jumped to about 220 nestboxes or close to one per 10 acres and with bad weather fledged about 900 bluebirds but were expecting to fledge more than 1,200. Decent weather the next year and they fledged almost 1,400 bluebirds, add in the other species and they fledged about one baby cavity nester for each acre of the "farm".

This is why I promote or recommend people on this list to not only have nestboxes in your yard but to use your property and set up a "wagon wheel" nestbox trail near your home. As you go to work or go play you can drive various roads away in every direction from your property. Look for ideal places to put up a nestbox or two that you can stop and check. LOOK for other people near you with bird feeders/nestboxes/well maintained yards and out of the "Blue" stop and visit with them and leave bluebird information and your contact info if no one is home. I normally always have a nestbox in the back of my truck and or trunk and if they want I place the nestbox and give them instructions on monitoring the box. I tell them I will be back to help THEM monitor the birds.

I rural East Texas I would place nestboxes on/near fence lines or on vacant property that I could check without getting off of highway right of ways. Over the last 30 years much of the grazing land, hay meadows have become "ranchettes" and I stop and teach the new home owners how and why to maintain my old nestboxes.

Our city manager has a "kids outdoors" program that runs for weeks during the summer and he had me come and help them build nestboxes yesterday. Two other master gardeners arrived at 8:15 we were set up and building nestboxes with 7 hammers by 8:25 they built almost 20 nestboxes, some extra nestbox kits went home with kids so that the boys or girls could show their dads how to build extra nestboxes at home for the "other side of the yard" or for the " other NEAT species of cavity nesters". They made more than 30 gourds into nestboxes or bird feeders (two holed nestboxes).

They got to ask questions, learn how to grow gourds, learn how and where to put up the nestboxes, learn why to paint the nestboxes a light shade of paint. Learn why there is ventilation or drainage in a nestbox ETC. There were only 12 kids in this class that morning, 6 high school life guards came and helped and they each built nestboxes. Four parents/grand parents/guardians came and helped/watched ETC.

We ate a large watermelon and were loaded up and heading home by 9:40. I added 20 good wood nestboxes to the spokes of my local wagon wheel. I added thirty gourds that will be good for one nesting. There are now 19 more people in my town who KNOW they can build their own nestboxes. Keith Kridler

Several weeks back I wrote to the list about a library display I was getting together for our local library branch. The displays usually consist of collections of teacups, actiona figures, coffee mugs, bottles, etc. and the display lady wasn't thrilled with what I brought: a nestbox, books on bluebirds, photographs, nestbox plans and three mounted birds on loan from a park ranger, plus a few other items.

The display was supposed to be up for two weeks, and is just coming down today so she can put up a special Fourth of July display, so it was there twenty four days. The display lady called me two nights ago and thanked me for doing it -- she said it got a lot of interest, from both adults and the children who are attending the summer reading program. All of the brochures I left on NABS and the California Bluebird Recovery Program are gone. I don't know how many people saw it, but our library is a very busy place.

I feel that any efforts made on behalf of wildlife are worthwhile, especially if they spark an interest in a child. After all, they're the future for the birds as well as mankind!

Barbara in Cloverdale, CA

From: Donna [mailto:spraydm"at"earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:43 PM
Subject: bird article

This is an interesting article in Scientific American. Most of all, note the neat drawing of the "super bird" near the bottom :-)

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=000CCC1F-E9E5-1492-A7CE83414B7F0000&colID=15

Donna

From: Kelley Family [mailto:herbsho"at"centurytel.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: Houses for summer camp

Well,
You may not remember an earlier posting about ideas for a Bluebird segment for our summer camp program.
Built 52 houses.
50 for the camp plus one assembled and one for show.
Figure I spent 60 hours, hand selecting the wood at a big box store and cutting and sanding the pieces.
I also predrilled the pieces for nails and started each nail in the wood.
Would have been faster to make the houses.

Plan was for two flights, 25 each.
We had 26 register for the first flight and 6 for the second.
Combined we had 10 actually show up.
Enjoyed working with the kids but I was disappointed.

Plan is to see the remaining 40 houses to pay for material.

We share our ups and our downs.

Herb Kelley
East Central Missouri.

Keith Kridler Mt. Pleasant, Texas
I had to pick up an air filter for my truck yesterday and the counter men were all standing doing nothing for a change as they are normally all three deep in customers. We got to joking and laughing about all the engine problems I bring in for them to help me with (especially my old International Black Diamond 361 cubic inch) when Juan asked if I was still building nestboxes for the kids.

Trevor Lousberg is working with me and he just laughed because we just got done moving in a big pile of lumber Shawn and I cut Sunday on the sawmill into the shop to begin drying. Juan said that the nestbox I had helped his daughter build at school years ago had finally gotten so rotten that he had it tightly wrapped to the post with wire to keep it together. I told him we had already made over 150 wood boxes with the kids this month and were doing another 40 on this Wednesday. He says his daughter still talks about building "her" bluebird house all by herself.

(Trevor's mom is pictured in The Bluebird Monitor's Guide riding the horse and checking the nestboxes among the herd of long horned cattle. The cat sitting on the nestbox roof in the book is Trevor's cat and it is still alive. My son Shawn and Trevor met when they were still riding in baby seats while Sandy and I were out installing nestboxes on what turned out to be the Lousbergs long driveway. ((Trevor actually is a little older but he helped Shawn unbuckle his seat belt that first meeting so he could show Shawn his
animals.)) They just sold the last of their cattle because the drought here for the last three years has made feeding them impossible even with more than 200 acres.)

Juan is another of those Spanish boys in Mt. Pleasant that when he turned 13 his parents told him he was old enough to be a man now and gave him a bundle of clothes and told him to go to America and get a job. As we were pulling out of the parking lot Trevor said to wait a minute and he took one of the nestboxes out of the back of the truck that we normally carry around with us and ran back in and gave a new box to Juan. He came back out and said we now made 151 this month....

As David did such a wonderful job describing the memories tied up in these nestboxes you have to realize that many of these boxes have raised 20 generations of birds. Sandy and I drove roads last night and it was 31 years ago that we got married and put up boxes on some of these roads for the very first time. There are MANY nestboxes that are still up that Shawn saw us open and check and record data back when we carried baby bottle warmers and spare diapers. Yes some of these boxes are wired to posts and are in pitiful condition but it is more fun to install new boxes nearby the spots these are in than it is to remove a simple wood box that we have opened hundreds and hundreds of times over the years.

Share some nestboxes with your friends and neighbors and create memories for the next generation. KK

The children's publication Highlights had an article on page 38 (May 2006) called "Bringing Back the Bluebirds." It has a very accurate drawing of a bluebird, and a picture of him checking a box. It was written by Brett Mahoney, Age 16, and talks about how he saw some boxes on some Nature Conservancy property in Long Island, and got curious. The 34 boxes were not being monitored or maintained, so he volunteered (The Nature Conservancy provided training) and has been doing it for four years. He mentions the aggressive "English" Sparrows and Starlings. He ends with "It gives me a lot of joy to know that through this stewardship, I'm helping nature in a small but important way."

It refers to an online activity to build a box:
http://www.highlightskids.com/Magazine/May06/h1magazineFlashObjects/bluebirdBox.asp. (Birdsong in the background is NOT a bluebird!) The nicely animated (and printable) presentation shows how to make a basic NABS style box (not much roof overhang) that opens from the top. They even recommend putting in kerfs, drainage holes on the floor, a 1.5" hole (what about MOBLs?) Floor isn't recessed though.

Bet from CT

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Rice [mailto:drbirdsong4"at"hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:23 AM
To: ezdz"at"charter.net; Bluebird-L"at"cornell.edu
Subject: RE: Bluebird item in Highlights May 2006

Bet,
Thanks! I was looking for something kid friendly for the progarm I will be giving next spring at several elementary schools. I think I can tweak some of it's flaws to make the boxes better. I'm hoping to get permission to take the kids on a field trip to the trail. Sincerely, Duane

-----Original Message-----
From: Bet Zimmerman [mailto:ezdz"at"charter.net]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 5:10 PM
To: 'Duane Rice'; Bluebird-L"at"cornell.edu
Subject: RE: Bluebird item in Highlights May 2006

There are more ideas on children's activities here: http://www.sialis.org/children.htm

If possible, I'd recommend making the Texas Bluebird Society house -
http://www.texasbluebirdsociety.org/documents/nestboxplans.pdf - I really like the roof overhang,
size, and side ventilation.

Bet from CT

Hi, Duane:

Don't worry for a minute about the overall construction ability of today's kids!

For several years now, I have been conducting workshops during the late Fall and through the Winter for area Boy and Girl Scouts to help them earn their enviromental conservation badges. As part of these workshops, each scout constructs a Peterson-style nest box. I am continuosly amazed at how quickly these 4th, 5th and 6th graders figure it out! Further, the excitement they always put into each and every box gives me so much hope for the cavity nesters of the future.  

In fact, I usually have many more challenges with the abilities of adults. Over the years, I have deduced that it all has to do with children's abilty to see the pure functionality of the box ... while adults see it much more from an abstract position.

Given half the chance, children will always rise to the challenge ... and even the hope and innocence of a child can make a difference in the conservation of our natural resources!

Take care,
David
North Central Texas

Hi, Bet:

Hmmm ... I rarely, if ever, have any problems with the kids ... now, often their parents manage to make a complete mess of the new box for them! :)

Also, since many of these kids live in very urban or busy suburban neighorhoods ... I let each child decide if they want to take their box home to monitor it or if they would like the box to become part of my Trail or if they would like for me to install it in one of our wildlife refuges up on the Red River. If they choose for me to install the box, I have them sign their name and troop number and, a couple of times during the breeding season, I e-mal their troop leader an update on the success of the box(es). I can't tell you how excited they get when they find out their boxes are actually occupied! 

On several occassions, the kids have writtens little notes of introduction to the bluebirds on the actual box after constructing it! During the season, each time that I check these particular boxes ... I can't help but get a big grin when I see each little message that was composed with such sincere feeling and thought by one of these kids!

Take care,
David
North Central Texas

I manned the Bluebird kiosk at the Ohio State Fair yesterday.

...

My favorite thing to do at the fair is bring a small container of mealworms in their different instars (stages of development), set them out and watch the kids as they approach. The majority of the girls' facial expressions are absolutely precious: scrunched up noses, incredulous eyes, furrowed brows, pulled back arms. "Ewwwww!" The boys want to take them home and name them or go fishin'.

My partner, Paul (no, we didn't sing that song together), was amused by the way my discussion of Bluebirds invariably segued into a discussion of active HOSP control. My first question to interested browsers is usually, "Do you have Bluebirds in your yard?" They generally do and start talking and soon they are telling me about their problems with HOSP and I am telling them what to do about it. I did refrain from the HOSP lecture a few times.

One of these times was with a gay male couple in their 50's. These two gentlemen were rather flamboyant if you get my drift. One had built and installed a few nestboxes and tacked them to his shed and all were occupied by sweet, little brown "finches". He was looking to build more boxes to house more of the precious darlings. I told him he was raising HOSP, and he insisted that they were finches. I pointed to some HOSP's bathing in the stream behind our exhibit. "Do your finches look like that?" I asked him.
"Why YES! Those are the sweet little birds!" I explained briefly that he
was raising HOSP which were nonnative and kill our native cavity nesters, but he seemed to be unconcerned. I just thank God he doesn't have a PUMA rig.

...

Other memories from the fair include a man who told me he raised EABL, but had a robin and an EABL fighting this spring. He told me the robin was no longer a problem (didn't want to hear that).

Another gentleman knew a lady who took an injured EABL into her home and has had the bird in captivity for 14 years. Although illegal, this bird could not survive in the wild so it didn't bother me. I was impressed that it has lived so long. No wild EABL would ever make it to 14 years I wouldn't think.

May all your Blues take wing...

Paula Z
Powell (Central) Ohio

Hi Paula,

Thanks for the report Paula.

I guess this post is "inside Ohio" stuff but I will be going back on Sunday (last day) to take down the kiosk . And thanks also Paula for spending the day working for bluebirds and the Ohio Bluebird Society.

If other State organizations can do it I really recommend working with your State Fair. In Ohio we have a kiosk (Paula just told you about) inside the Ohio Department of Natural Resources campus at the fairgrounds. We staff the kiosk with volunteers every day the fair is open (about two weeks) from 10 am - 4 - 5 pm.

In doing so we meet thousands of Ohioans and even get a few memberships.
But best part is the P.R. A lot of folks do not know there is such a thing as the Ohio Bluebird Society.

We have display of proper nest boxes, mounts and baffles also and hand out information including our own OBS trail guide with tips for Ohio bluebirders.

Thanks to Doug LeVasseur for starting this activity years ago and thanks to Lum and Meriam Bourne who organized all the volunteers this year.

Bernie Daniel
Ohio Bluebird Society

Keith Kridler Mt. Pleasant, Texas
Fabulous moon out last night, I guess our drought and burning ban across most of the state is keeping the air clear as the stars were hanging in clusters like shimmering diamond necklaces from the heavens!

I was born in the northeast corner of Ohio in 1954 and moved to Texas in 1964. I never saw a bluebird in Ohio during those years even though we had up nestboxes and the family was into feeding birds, raising Purple Martins and controlling House Sparrows and Starlings on our mink ranch.

Sandy & I returned to Ohio in 1978 for a visit and bluebirds were coming back to Stark County Ohio and our cousins were starting to get them in nestboxes. There were MANY nestboxes in the Amish country of Ohio and Pennsylvania and you saw lots of bluebirds down a little further south in Ohio. By the 1980's and early 90's Ohio had turned into a bluebird heaven of sorts and bluebirds were common north across Lake Erie all along the shores of Southern Ontario where bluebird trails were established. (My older brother moved back to Homeworth Ohio in 1985 & bought our uncles farm after we lost our Texas farm to coal strip mining. If you are in the northeast corner of Ohio visit "Kridler Gardens" as he is as nuts about botanical plants and daffodils as Sandy and I are into bluebirds! If you visit make sure he is keeping the bluebird nestboxes repaired and cleaned out:-) The last time I was up there he was raising too many House Wrens and flying
squirrels!)

It is nice to hear that people walking through a county fair in Ohio report having so many bluebirds today! Our Master Gardener group met last night to make plans for our county fair. It looks like we may expand the nestbox building to all four nights of the fair for the "kids" IF I can cut out enough kits! We donate the nestboxes to the kids normally that they build.
Many bluebird groups will take nestbox kits to an event and teach the children and or adults how to "build a nestbox" and then these boxes are used to replace old nestboxes on trails monitored by avid bluebirders. The children get the experience of building the nestboxes and the trails get new boxes.

One thing we need to remember is that bluebirds are NOT endangered in any state East of the Mississippi. People first put up nestboxes and bird feeders to help the different bird species that are coming into their yards that have been bulldozed, replanted to grasses and landscape plants where there is not concrete, brick or steel now covering their little patch of land.

County fairs are GREAT to work at raising awareness of the cavity nesters.
IF you have two or three bluebirders there you can have one helping these people build good nestboxes, one explaining how and where to mount the nestboxes and you can have one lecturing on predators, heat and cold and even House Sparrows:-)) Few people "Plan" on having to deal with problems with their new hobby until something happens and THEN they need your help!

You can take up to 15 minutes teaching someone to build a nestbox with a hammer and nails while you visit with them about what to do with the nestbox when they get it. When using a nailgun, holding it while they shoot the box together you only have about 2 minutes. Each nestbox you build out of quality lumber can easily last 10 years. One of my early nestboxes fledged
69 bluebirds in the first five years it was up. I remembered this as it was also box # 69....

There is actually a wild banded bluebird that was recaptured after 14 years.
A crow just died in captivity this summer that lived for 56 years I believe.
It outlived the original couple who picked up this baby injured crow and kept it as a pet. It was blind the last couple of years though. KK

Every so often I'll chime in after a flurry of "build more boxes" postings because more boxes do not equate to more Bluebirds in urban areas.

Here on the west coast we, too, have "build more boxes" fever amongst some of the Bluebirders because it is a great human-to-human bonding tool. But in my urban area, there are already too many boxes in the hands of homeowners who let House Sparrows nest in boxes next to seed feeders.
Homeowners here generally have just enough land to squeeze in a house with 2-car garage and spa (sometimes a pool) We are able to help ONE desirable species of cavity nester, the Western Bluebird, under these tight urban conditions if we use public green spaces (schools, parks, greenbelts).

If box building programs were to directly impact only the monitor causing the problems, that would be poetic justice. There would be hundreds of homeowner boxes filled with House Sparrows surrounding their trails. But that is not the case. Box-building programs scatter problems everywhere so I've asked monitors who conduct these programs to keep those problems away from my trail. That doesn't happen because one monitor has grandkids going to schools in my city.

A direct impact of these box-building programs can be simulated by anyone on this List by giving out free nestboxes to homeowners on tiny plots of land surrounding a public park, school or neighborhood greenbelt. Homes on tiny plots of land tend to "help" birds with seed and the give-away boxes should be full of House Sparrows within a couple of years. Now try to raise Bluebirds next to the homeowner's House Sparrow box and feeders.

Unbelievably, that is exactly what some of the trail monitors in my area are doing. They sell trail boxes to homeowners surrounding tiny neighborhood parks and eventually have to take down some trail boxes because House Sparrows raised in nearby homeowner nestboxes overflow into the trail. I took over a couple of those areas and was perplexed about the dynamics of some sites until I realized trail boxes had been sold to surrounding homeowners.

Extra homeowner boxes in urban areas have a direct negative impact to urban trails. I do like the concept of having kids build boxes that will go into the hands of trail monitors.

And the impact is not limited to just urban trails. I've also got a trail next to a national forest and the box building programs done down here in urban Yorba Linda have found their way to homeowners living next to the forest. The House Sparrow problem can be more easily explained and contained because the population in the resort area isn't as dense.

Linda Violett
Yorba Linda, Calif.

From: rdb2006"at"verizon.net [mailto:rdb2006"at"verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: RE: hunting for fledglings - long (sorry)

>From: Mary Beth Roen <mbroen"at"hotmail.com> Pam, You are right, it is
>amazing how little the general public knows about birds and other
>wildlife. I was so lucky to have grown up on a farm and learned about
>nature from the real source!

Sorry to be drifting off-topic here, but there's a book out that's getting a lot of attention which asserts that our youth may be doing even worse when it comes to things related to nature.

The book is "Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children from Nature-Deficit Disorder," by Richard Louv.

After tens of thousands of years of children playing and working primarily outdoors, the last few generations have seen such interaction with nature vanish almost entirely. Their interests are primarily focused on electronic related activities (ie, Internet, computers, games, etc) and other social interests.

Take the kids outdoors; don't let them become Nature-Deficit.

--rudy in maryland

From: evelyn cooper [mailto:emcooper"at"bayou.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: RE: hunting for fledglings - long (sorry)

I don't think you are off-topic at all. To me, this is definitely a serious concern. I never fail to marvel at the work that Keith does with kids everywhere. We featured one of our LBBS members in our latest newsletter, helping his grandkids up on a stool to inspect the bluebird babies in the box. Even if you are not a science teacher or give presentations, you can find a way to help a child learn about the outdoors and most of them absolutely love it. I think it is in my kids and their generations genes. :<)

Evelyn
www.labayoubluebirdsociety.org

From: Steve and Cindy Groene [mailto:hausgroene"at"comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: RE: hunting for fledglings - long (sorry)

Don't worry Rudy. My son is 2.5 and has already been hiking several times, canoeing on the lake, 'helping' me w/ the bluebirds, watching the birds feed from my feeders, fishing, and we will go camping w/ him for the first time this fall. In another winter, he will be snowshoeing w/ us. Not all will be lost, but it certainly seems like a shrinking group.

Cindy Groene
South Lyon, MI

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