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Carolina WrensSome posts on this topic may be found under Wrens. Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:55:19 -0400 I've had a couple inquiries about the Carolina Wren nest with eggs in the nest box. I placed nest boxes around this birds favorite haunts for several years with no success in enticing them to nest in a nest box. They seemed to prefer one of my tennis shoes, a vent on the house, on the frame of my old van which I seldom moved, or in a hole in the side of a bank . Then, I saw a drawing of a slot box in a child's book. For some reason, I just knew it would work for this wren. And, it does. Since that time I have had one or more successful nestings in a slotted box on the side of my house each year for 4 years. I restrict the slot to about a 1.5 inch square after the eggs are laid. They're a joy to have around. Gary Springer
Date: 10 May 00 10:37:10 PDT What do any of you think I should do, if anything, about my full house? We get to our place in the country in S.E. Kansas only on the weekends so it is difficult sometimes to know the exact dates that thing happen but... Several weeks ago the Carolina wrens laid 5 eggs in a nest they built in the lid on our propane tank. For at least 3 weekends I checked them to see the progress and it was still only eggs and for the last couple of weeks I really never saw Ma or Pa around (but they can be sneaky!) When we went out last weekend I has decided to take the eggs out if nothing had changed. When I went to open the lid Ma flew out and boy was I surprised when I counted 10 eggs! My question is: After the babies hatch (if they do this time) should I try to remove the old 5 eggs or just leave them? There isn't much room in there in the first place, let alone when they get to be almost 2 weeks old. Thanks for any suggestions. We have fledged 5 Bluebirds and have another nest almost ready to.
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:14:59 -0400 Cindy, I was in this situation two years ago, but with Tree Swallows. She had laid a clutch, and for some unknown reason, she (or another female?) laid another clutch without building a new nest. Such a large clutch makes incubation difficult, but at least the female turns the eggs and they may get re-arranged. I left all the eggs alone. The first set turned a grayish-yellow and I could tell the old eggs from the new. All the new eggs hatched. I did not remove the eggs, but retrieved them after fledging. They all survived the nestlings! In your case, with Carolina Wrens, they may remove the eggs at some point. I would just wait and see. Brenda The Nature Club of Central New York ...
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:11:28 EDT Gary and others, Kevin Bloom ...
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:50:42 -0400 I can't answer your question about the bluebird box, but I do have Carolina Wrens on a regular basis. They do not have the same aggressive nesting habits as house wrens, and will not harm your bluebirds. They are not even obligate cavity nesters but may nest in other protected areas such as tangled vines. Enjoy them - they are charming and graceful additions to your yard. ... --
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:22:47 -0500 We had some rain this PM and I was in the garage/workshop repairing a picnic
table that was broken when our friendly old oak tree fell on it and the
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:26:31 -0400 The Carolina wren is NOT a danger to other birds, as it does not have the aggressive nesting habits of the House Wren. It is not even an obligate cavity nester, but will nest in any reasonably well-protected space, such as a tangled vine, hanging plant or shrub. I love their song and find them charming additions to my yard. --
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Katherine and all,
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:53:24 -0500 My experience (fortunately) here in northeast Oklahoma is the same. Carolina
Wrens nesting in some boxes on my porch and deck but absolutely no
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:23:02 -0400
This is a Carolina Wren nesting question to those people who have seen the C. Wren nest on your property. Today is of course Aug. 28...thus late in the summer, but I'm having C. Wrens(the male & female) building a nest in a flower pot. Questions...isn't this sort of late in the season for them to still be nesting? They did a lot of nest building a few days ago, but for the last couple of days, I haven't seen them do any building...but the nest looks almost complete. No egg yet as of today. Do they nest similar to the Eastern Bluebird...such as egg laying, incubation, etc.? The other day I chased a big black snake away from them. It was approaching about 20-25 ft. away from their nest. I wonder if the C. Wren may be afraid to start egg laying because of this. Haven't seen the snake since then. Any thoughts? Let me know.... Thanks....Horace in NC.
Re: Horace Sher's question about a late nesting of wrens.... I don't know about the late nesting part - this is the first year I've been able to observe a pair of C. Wrens nesting. But I wanted to add some observations I noticed. I have a big potted plant on my deck and had a pair build a nest in it. It is only 2 foot from the door, so activity must not bother them too much. Since I can't tell the male from the female, I can't say for sure if both help build the nest or not, but there was a small time delay between the end of the nest completion to when the female started sitting in the nest. What I found interesting was that she never leaves the eggs (maybe she does for brief periods....). Once she laid them, she sat on them day and night and the male brought food to her (ah....how sweet). I checked on her everyday and she didn't seem disturbed by me looking in. Once the eggs hatched, both parents brought food (saw them both at one time bringing in food) and I never heard a sound from the babies. As you probably know, the C. Wren has a LOUD song for such a small bird, but those babies were quiet as mice and so were the parents around the nest. That snake is going to be a problem. Glad you were able to chase it off when you did, but with warm weather, they are also able to hunt at night (and if it's hot, they prefer it from what I've read), so if the parents were scared off by the presence of a predator, maybe it was for the best. Joyce Sobey, Virginia
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:59:47 -0400 Horace, The carolina wren usually lays its first egg 5 days after the nest is built. Then each egg is laid daily until the clutch is complete. Eggs generally hatch after 14 days of incubation and the young fledge 12 10 14 days after hatching.. ,Paul ...
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:58:08 -0700 (PDT)
: Hello Birdwatchers. I've been on vacation for the last couple of weeks & away from the computer, but I wanted to say what I found in a flower pot a couple of days ago..the day after coming back. Some of you may recall that about a month or 2 ago, I reported seeing Carolina Wrens building a late nest in a Geranium pot. Well after receiving a few replies about this, I dismissed it as a dummy nest because nothing was going on for several weeks. But the day before yesterday, I discovered 2 C. Wren nestlings in the nest.. so it looks like they did the whole nesting process while we were gone (14 days). And also on that same day, they apparently fledged. Thought this was rather interesting that this happened very late in the summer or early fall...don't you think? Horace in NC.
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:27:03 EDT Kathy Clark, New Cumberland, PA Hello! I have received this question below.. Does anyone know the answer definitely or had this occur on their trail? I have had Carolina Wrens in my plants, shoes, etc. but have not seen them reuse the nest there and have not had them use a nest box.. a coffee can etc. but they did not reuse it. Do they reuse the nest. I could not find anything that would tell me that other than they can have up to two broods per season. Should the poster leave the nest or remove it? Thanks. QUESTION SENT TO ME: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:54:07 -0500 Keith Kridler Mt. Pleasant, Texas Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:27:03 EDT Kathy Clark, New Cumberland, PA Hello! I have received this question below.. Does anyone know the answer definitely or had this occur on their trail? I have had Carolina Wrens in my plants, shoes, etc. but have not seen them reuse the nest there and have not had them use a nest box.. a coffee can etc. but they did not reuse it. Do they reuse the nest. I could not find anything that would tell me that other than they can have up to two broods per season. Should the poster leave the nest or remove it? Thanks. QUESTION SENT TO ME: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:54:07 -0500 Keith Kridler Mt. Pleasant, Texas Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:56:26 -0400 Hi all, I had a first today. I had two nests of Carolina Wrens. This is the kind of wren I like to have. Maynard Sumner NABS OBS MBRP OBC NAHC NAFC
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 09:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Hi Katrina, Seems no one responded to your post on Carolina Wrens so I will. Yes House wrens do cause problems for Bluebirds and other native cavity nesters. They puncture eggs and toss out chicks of other birds in order to gain control of the box It is rare in most areas to get Carolina Wrens to nest in a box built for birds. They don't cause these same problems and like other protected birds should be proudly accepted as occupants of your nest boxes. You can even brag about it as many people never have Carolina Wrens nest in their boxes. Joe Huber Venice, Fl. Charter member NABS, Charter member OBS, Life member OBS Joe Huber http://community.webtv.net/hubertrap/HOUSESPARROWCONTROL http://community.webtv.net/hubertrap/RoostingBluebirds
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:27:30 -0400 A couple of weeks ago I had posted on the possibility of Carolina Wrens using one of my nestboxes. Now, in hindsight, I think they were just using the box as a perch. Although I saw one of them go inside to check it out, they chose not to use the nestbox. I was disappointed, but they did choose to nest somewhere behind the box. I haven't located the actual nest yet but it seems to be in the thick brush that surrounds the area. I've been watching the adults for the past 2 weeks and they seem to be feeding young right now. They are consistently seen in this brushy area and seem to use a large stand of evergreens for hunting and resting. I've been pleased to have them nest close to my house, as I can watch their activities and enjoy their song and calls from my back porch without disturbing them. On these hot humid evenings I like this "relaxed" kind of birding! Last year I had a pair of Carolina Wrens nest in a fuchsia plant on the deck of my house. The deck faces the stream which is 15 feet away. This pair nested much earlier in the season, so the pair I have now is a little later nesting than last year's pair. I am just curious, but has anyone had 3 nestings of Carolina's? According to D. Brauning and G. McWilliams in "The Birds of Pennsylvania" 2 nestings are common in PA. We too are experiencing a heat wave as others have posted about. Temps in the 90's with heat indices of 100+ and very high humidity. My bluebird adults are still in the area of my house. I hear them and see them everyday. I haven't seen the fledglings for the past 4 days. They are out of the box about 2 weeks now. That's my short update from central PA today. Terri Kromel Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 02:41:08 -0400 Hi Terry, Here in Northeast Georgia the breeding season for the Carolina Wren begins earlier than that of the bluebirds and, at least this year, seems to last longer as well. I listened with interest the posts about third and fourth nestings of bluebirds and am in agreement with those that wrote without banding it is near impossible for most of us to know how many broods an individual female raises. Having said that, because I have successive nest attempts by bluebirds that seem to come in three distinct waves, early spring, early summer and late summer, and because each is separated by only a week or less, and because no further nestings occur, it is obvious that at this point they aren't raising four broods on this property. It has also been noted that feeding mealworms seems to increase the chances of a fourth nesting. I do not feed mealworms. Regarding Carolina Wrens, because its breeding season appears to be longer than that of the bluebird, it seems the season is long enough for a single female to raise three, maybe even four broods. But, as with bluebirds, there is no way to determine if this is happening without banding. As I wrote yesterday, there are more Carolina Wrens nesting in nest boxes on the property now than at any previous time. Four of these are in the standard Chalet bluebird box and the fifth in a NABS box. But, for years, with few exceptions, they only used the slot box. Apparently they have grown to accept nest boxes and now do so without hesitation. In fact just this morning during a mild rain, I watched a pair of Carolina Wrens investigate yet another Chalet nest box that is mounted about 12 feet high. What a sight. One of the wrens was sitting at the hole looking in and the second wren flew to the box and started poking the first wren in the butt, obviously coaxing the wren at the entrance hole to go inside the nest box. It did this at least 6 times until the wren looking in the hole finally went inside. Like I said before, it is something amazing every day. Please note that while the Carolina Wrens on my property are using nest boxes with accelerating regularity, this does not concern me as these wonderful wrens do not harm eggs or nestlings of other birds. In fact because I have seen bluebirds thwart a nest attempt of Carolina wrens by removing nest material from a box as fast as the wrens were able to put it in and successfully stopped the nest attempt, I believe the bluebird would win in a competition with this wren for a nest box. Gary Springer, Writing from the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains in Northeast Georgia, further north than most of South Carolina and a bit of North Carolina. Most extensive source of Bluebird information http://audubon-omaha.org/bbbox/bestofbbml/bblindx.htm Real Bird Homes www.realbirdhomes.com From: LauraSue14"at"aol.com Hello everyone, From: "Judy Godwin" jfg"at"nc.rr.com Sorry to be off-topic and wasting time on the list but I have a situation that I thought someone might be willing to help me understand. To all others, I apologize for the posting. A family of Carolina Wrens have been nesting in my garage. Today I had a repairman over and he was in the garage and startled the mom as she was coming in with a bug for the babies. The mom hopped down from the nesting area. The level of activity was too much cause 3 of the 4 chicks hopped down, around and finally went out of the garage the way mom went. My problem is the remaining chick. It's sitting in the garage all by himself and isn't going anywhere and it doesn't appear as though the mother is coming back. He's been chirping his little heart out for several hours now. Will the chick finally just leave and find the rest or do you think the mother will return for him? Thank you, From: hubertrap"at"webtv.net (Joe Huber) Hi Judy, I think the mother will return to feed the last chick if he keeps calling. Are things back to normal around the nest and all human activity halted for now? Give him a day or so. The mother should hear its call and come to help. Joe Huber Charter member NABS, Charter member OBS, Life member OBS Joe Huber hubertrap"at"webtv.net http://community.webtv.net/hubertrap/HOUSESPARROWCONTROL
http://community.webtv.net/hubertrap/RoostingBluebirds 27.1171494 N Lo -82.4124222 W Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Hello all, You'll find it hard to believe but she built a nest and has laid at least one egg in a pair of sweat pants. In the back pocket of the sweat pants that have been hanging from a clothes line for about a month. We usually get them nesting in hanging pots under the 2nd level deck but evidently nothing was to their liking or available this year. I hope they make it but I don't know how they will weather a storm. Maybe I
need to put a roof over the sweats. With all the frustrations and heartbreak I
have experienced on my Illinois trail it was just good to laugh again. Have a good day Bob Sitarski a.k.a The Doctor Jackson County Indiana ( 385244N 086023W ) & Clay County Illinois ( 384008N 0882908W ) From: "JBB2002" brick"at"tusco.net I have what I think are Carolina Wrens nesting in a basket on my porch. Do these wrens do the same things to bluebirds as house wrens? Also there is a small brown bird with bars on wings and a rust colored cap with a loud call that is hanging around. I feel naive as to not being able to identify birds. I didn't pay too much attention until I started to try to provide for bluebirds in my yard. The bird book shows this rust-capped bird to be a Chipping sparrow or an American tree sparrow. Do you think this is right? Also I moved my boxes and finally seem to have discouraged wrens to nest. Finally I see a bluebird pair along with sparrows or another brown bird checking out the box. Then nothing. Do you think the bluebirds were chased away? Should I move the box again? Thanks. Janice In NE Ohio. From: hubertrap"at"webtv.net (Joe Huber) Hi Janice, Carolina Wrens are not guilty of any destruction to Bluebird nests. They are the good guys. As for the Bluebirds and another brown bird visiting your boxes,no need to move them. Check to be sure none are building, if not there is no need to move them. he HOSP can slip in a nest and you not notice,so visually look in the boxes to know for sure. Still time for nesting when they are ready. Joe Huber, Venice, Fl. Charter member NABS, Charter member OBS, Life member OBS Joe Huber hubertrap"at"webtv.net http://community.webtv.net/hubertrap/HOUSESPARROWCONTROL
http://community.webtv.net/hubertrap/RoostingBluebirds 27.1171494 N Lo -82.4124222 W ... Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Hello, This is my first post to this list so hello to everyone and i hope someone can help me figure out what to do. I've researched Bluebirds and such quite a bit. After putting up the house, and following everything I've read to a Tee.. bluebirds moved in within 2 days. My first bluebird family only had one egg, but it hatched and they left about a week ago (june 18ish). I put out a fair amount of the hulled safflower seed and I was even able to feed the hatching a mealy worm at one point. I cleaned the box out hoping for a return. As you can see my box is very accessible The picture of the new bluebird baby and box is here: http://linux-workshop.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumNamenc_scenes&idnc_bluebird_1434 Now, I'm having a bit of an issue and I'm not sure what to do. It appears
that a Carolina Wren started building a nest in the box today. I wasn't sure at
first, but I opened the box and checked.. all twigs, assembled in a cone/funnel
type nest, so i was sure it wasn't a house sparrow. I'd say it's about a quarter
of the way built. I've sited him twice today so I'm pretty sure it's a wren. Wrens frequent my feeder in the backyard. My array of feeders attracts alot of bird traffic from all species, including birds like this Barred Owl who preys on my squirrel population that are attracted to seeds that have fallen on the ground: http://linux-workshop.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumNamenc_scenes&idowl_0550 But i rarely get bluebirds at the feeder. I've always had one wren family in the backyard. So the big question is, do i leave the wren build the nest in the blue bird box or clean it out? from what i understand, they build several nests and let the female pick one out. The downside could be cleaning it out, and having no birds for this incubation period. But if I don't it might drive the bluebirds away for this period. 1) will the presence of the wrens in the box be more permanent than a bluebird's or is their nesting behavior similar? 2) will this presence deter bluebirds in the future? 3) If I leave the wrens, can i check on them in the same fashion as bluebirds? are they more afraid of humans than bluebirds? 4) What would the rough date deadline be for cleaning out the wrens nest hoping for bluebirds to come? (first 2 weeks of july?). If I do this, i want to do it before the poor wren wastes too much time. Any info on CARW or preference of keeping them/moving them for bluebirds appreciated. Other notes: Thanks, From: hubertrap"at"webtv.net (Joe Huber) Hello, It is a House wren building in your box. they use all twigs for their
nest. The Carolina Wren uses coarse grass and other things. house wrens are
notorious for pecking other birds eggs,so even if the Bluebirds do nest in a
near by box they could be in for trouble. Even if you remove the twigs from the
box they could cause trouble for Bluebirds that move in. You need to decide what
way to go. The bluebirds may choose another box in the area and possibly have
success. Charter member NABS, Charter member OBS, Life member OBS Joe Huber hubertrap"at"webtv.net http://community.webtv.net/hubertrap/HOUSESPARROWCONTROL
http://community.webtv.net/hubertrap/RoostingBluebirds 27.1171494 N Lo -82.4124222 W ... From: "Burnham, Barbara" Barbara.Burnham"at"zzz.zzz Michael, If it is a Carolina Wren, they are delightful guests, and will not harm other birds. Enjoy their company. They are very tolerant of humans and monitoring. You might add another nestbox for the bluebirds and they will both get along just fine. However, if it is a House Wren, that is a very different story. They will fill all nest cavities in their chosen territory with sticks to prevent other birds from nesting, only using one to actually nest in. They steal other birds eggs, remove them nearby with a neat hole poked in each one. If there are small baby birds, they will throw them out of the nest to die. They do these things in their territory throughout their nesting season to reduce competition. Their young will return to the same territory. Not MY favorite guest. We have a bluebird pair that has been with us for 2 years now. However, this year, after the first brood fledged, a house wren began filling their box with sticks. I emptied them each day. One day, the wren was followed into the box by the female bluebird and there was a fight. I found hundreds of little wren body feathers in the box, but gladly no blue or gray feathers. For several more days in a row, I emptied the box of sticks. Then, while I was away on vacation, the monitor closed the box. A week later I returned, opened the box, and the blues built a nest immediately. Their first 2 eggs were stolen and poked nearby (guess who did that?). When the 3rd egg was laid, the bluebird stayed in the nestbox most of the day and at night. Three eggs hatched and are now 4 days old. I pray the wren does not sneak in and throw them out, as they are known to do. I hope this helps you, and I hope your wren is a Carolina wren. I enjoyed seeing the picture of the baby bluebird. Be sure to NOT open the box after the babies are 12-13 days old. At that age, they may jump out (fledging prematurely) before they are able to fly, and be very vulnerable to predators. I keep a calendar noting dates of eggs laid, hatching date, etc. and a note on day 12 to help me remember the "last box check." Barbara Burnham Ellicott City, MD -----Original Message----- ... From: "Paula" PaulaZ"at"columbus.rr.com House wrens are native birds as well and great little insect eaters. If you have a house wren nesting near your garden, you will have a lot less insect problems. They are aggressive, however as Joe stated in his e-mail. They often build dummy nests, and then choose their nesting site. I would leave the nest start be for 2-3 weeks and see what develops. If it is a dummy nest, they will not finish it off (no nice cup), will find their ultimate nesting site by this time, and you can remove it. They may choose your house to nest in though which is fine too. If you want to deter wrens from nesting, siting box at least 40 yards from woods or brushy areas should do the trick (i.e. open yard). Last year, my neighbor had a bluebird pair start a nest and had a house wren deposit twigs on top of their nest, claiming the box. We gave it a little over two weeks. Wren evidently found nesting site it preferred because did not finish nest in her box. Bluebird pair came back (maybe different ones, don't know) and were anxiously on and looking in the box. At that point (once we knew wren no longer interested), she removed all the twigs, the bluebirds finished their nest and began laying the next day. Paula Z From: USAjs88"at"aol.com [mailto:USAjs88"at"aol.com] Looks like I have my first wooden nest box occupant this year. A Carolina Wren is carrying weed stems and spanish moss into a nest box. However, a male may build several nest from which the female chooses. So no guarantee that this nest box will be their final choice, but interesting none the less. Patriot From: Tree Greenwood [mailto:doctree"at"crosslink.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Organic farmer - educating newcomers You will never eliminate ignorance, just lessen it by educating folks like the Dallas retiree. If he had met and spoken to you sooner, perhaps the pipe would have been capped. I'm sure his stovepipe is capped now. Every time he visits someone's home, he'll notice if they have a wood stove and look to see if the pipe is capped. He'll tell his sad story again and educate others. That won't bring back the BBs that he killed but it will help to protect other birds. Cavity nesting birds enter my uncapped chimney as well. Built from common brick, I still use it on the coldest winter days. Every summer, it is home for a pair Chimney Swifts. That's why it remains uncapped. Someday, I hope to build a dedicated Chimney Swift tower http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/nature/birding/chimneyswift/chimneyswift-index.htm Every spring, birds check the dark cavity. Some end up at the bottom of the masonry shaft. The birds, mostly European Starlings, can't escape going up but see light below and waddle down a horizontal stovepipe to fall into the potbelly's firebox. Bluebirds escape through the open door vent opening that's just the right size to let them (and English House Sparrows {grumble}) escape into the shop while EUST remain trapped until I release them into a clear plastic bag. I net HS that get into the shop though some escape as soon as I open the door. The occasional Bluebirds are soot covered but exit unharmed through the door when I step away from it. They go to the birdbath for long drinks and baths, then gobble bugs around the artificial pond. In the past 20-plus years, BBs came down that chimney maybe half a dozen times. Fortunately, most BBs prefer nest boxes and gourds. Keith, about all that can be done is to gently and continuously educate the
folks we meet. Let a neighbor who bought nestboxes at Wal-Mart know why they
shouldn't just screw the box to a tree. Show them your predator guards and
explain why you put them up. Help rescue birds from dryer vents and show folks
how to cover them with hardware cloth. Take care, R J 'Tree' Greenwood From: David Gwin [mailto:David.Gwin"at"cityofcarrollton.com] Howdy, All: From: Evelyn Cooper [mailto:emcooper"at"bayou.com] David, it would be no problem for me to decide. I would reduce the size of the opening by putting the appropriate size on there. >From what I have read, you would not have a great abundance of Chickadees would you? Don't they nest several miles apart? Or at least, some larger distance that for Bluebirds? Now, the CAWR may nest closer and take more of them. However, I think it depends on your own outlook and nature to how you would handle the situation. Kenny K just sent me the most adorable picture of his Prothonotary Warbler babies, four of them and one egg not hatched. I loved seeing the color of the egg. Now, I am smitten with that little bird. If it built a nest in something with a hole to large on my trail, I would be there "Johnny On The Spot" to save their little lives! Evelyn From: David Gwin [mailto:David.Gwin"at"cityofcarrollton.com] Evelyn: Thanks for your thoughts. In reference to your question, I actually have a lot of CACH and for some reason mine don't follow the "10 acre rule" per all the reference materials. In fact, in several sections of my trail, CACH nesting much closer to each other than a 1/4 mile apart. CARWs actually nest much closer to each other than most other cavity nesters. BTW - If you ever get a chance to view one of their nests built in a much larger box, take it. With its much longer funnel, it is one of the most interesting nests in this much larger cavity. Take care, P.S. - I think I have shared with you that my trails actually focus on the PROW as my primary target species. I am very partial to this species. Generally, less than 25% of my trails are utilized by EABLs. From: David Gwin [mailto:David.Gwin"at"cityofcarrollton.com] Jimmy: Thanks for the feedback. Up to this point, I have just let nature take its course. I am one of those that believe that nature has a way of dealing with these kinds of things ... that is, when we are talking native to native. Take care, P.S. - Yes ... It is CARW, not CAWR. From: Jimmy Dodson [mailto:rocks_and_flies"at"hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:28 PM Subject: Re: When CACH/CAWR Move Into a "McMansion" CACH don't adhere to the 10ac rule here either... more like .5-1 ac. And the male will start building in every box until the female chooses one -- 1 trail is dispersed across both open grassy to heavily forested areas. CARW have so many nests b/c the males are not monogamous. They court one female, get her brooding and then "run off" to find the next rarely (VERY) helping raise young at all. They're too busy with the "other women". I've had as many as 6 CARW nest within ~125 yds and only one male singing over the territory running all others off as soon as they open their beaks. Take care --J Jimmy Dodson From: David Gwin [mailto:David.Gwin"at"cityofcarrollton.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:49 PM Subject: Re: When CACH/CAWR Move Into a "McMansion" Jimmy: Same behavior exhibited for both species here on my trails. In fact, over the years, I have become a great observer of CACH. They are fascinating when foraging as a flock in the trees ... especially when that flock is comprised of an adult pair and the latest bunch of fledglings from one of your very own nest boxes. Take care, From: denisefarmer"at"comcast.net [mailto:denisefarmer"at"comcast.net] All, From: Lana Hunt [mailto:lanahunt"at"kcp.uky.edu] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Claimstraws, so-called .... The Carolina wrens fledged yesterday between five and six in the afternoon. I thought birds were supposed to fledge in the morning. At any rate, I was able to witness it, a first for me. I was so excited! Talk about a leap of faith, to jump out of that nest box, has to be one. Mom and Dad were dangling meal worms for encouragement. One landed on the windshield of my car. That was a slippery slope for a time. It finally got to the windshield wipers and was able to get a good enough grip to jump to the near by Rose of Sharon tree with its nest mate. Mrs. Wren has been coming inside the house to tell me she needs more meal worms for the babies. Lana Hunt |
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