Bluebirds - Common, Rare, Endangered or Threatened?
Also see posts on Bluebird Flocks and Bluebird Population
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:34:42 -0500
From: "Bruce Burdett" blueburd"at"srnet.com
Subject: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
To: The Constituency,
The reports I read on these Lists increasingly suggest to me that Bluebirds
are becoming more and more common in several parts of the continent.
I have a distinct sense, based on the mail I receive from Conspirators, that
they are even making slow but measurable progress in NH, though ours is still a
relatively Bluebird-poor state. The majority of folks I speak to up here say
that they have never seen one in their lives, while others say they haven't seen
one "for decades."
I wonder if some of you are of the opinion that the Bluebird is now, in fact,
a common bird where you live. Perhaps some of you even feel that it is time to
declare victory, and that there is no longer a need to exert special efforts on
its (no apostrophe) behalf.
I'd be interested in your views, even if they are merely impressions.
Bruce Burdett, NH Bluebird Conspiracy, Sunapee NH
blueburd"at"srnet.com ...
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:24:02 -0600
From: "Keith & Sandy Kridler" kridler"at"1starnet.com
Subject: Bluebirds are common
Keith Kridler Mt. Pleasant, Texas
...
Bluebirds are very common across east Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and
Louisiana. Very large numbers of nestboxes are placed in rural settings in those
states. After about 10 years of fairly mild winters large populations of
bluebirds have built up but a single widespread severe winter will change
numbers drastically as happened in the mid 1970's.
Sunday I visited with Steve
Gilbertson in Minnesota, over the phone and he had temperatures at -20* F while
I had been raking leaves and sweating with no shirt on at 65*F "at" 9:00 AM.....
Bluebirds were drifting overhead on Sunday fighting a south head wind ahead of
this cold front in groups of 1530 heading mostly due south. With the passage of
the front, bluebirds were ripping overhead in smaller groups pushed by a viscous
cold north wind just a day later. Yes we have done a great job bringing the
bluebird back to many areas of the country but they will always have to depend
on humans for additional nest sites and help from predators, which in their case
are actually increasing in numbers.
I agree with Bruce in that many people in Texas will "CONGRADULATE" us "bluebirders"
for doing a good job at bringing back the bluebird. KK
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:37:56 -0500
From: Bill & Dot Forrester wforres1"at"twcny.rr.com
Subject: Re: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
Hi Bruce and all,
Here in upstate NY on the east tip of Lake Ontario, bluebirds are still not
common birds. There are two major trails within 50 miles of us which produce
many bluebirds, but a cold wet Spring (all too common here) usually knocks down
the population every couple of years. More people in my immediate area are
seeing bluebirds, most for the first time, but such sightings are still rare
enough to make the local paper. It has only been in the last 6-7 years that my
yard has reliably attracted at least one breeding pair each season. Our snowbelt
climate is very hard on all birds who nest early and need insects for their
young, as snow and/or freezing rain are common right through early May.
First nestings often result in total failure because of weather conditions,
and third nestings are almost unheard of. Nonetheless, bluebird populations here
do seem to be on the increase, judgingfrom reports of our local bird groups.
Dot
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:51:17 -0700
From: "Robert Wilson" bluebirdbob1"at"home.com
Subject: Re: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
Bruce and All some of those folks who have never see a bluebird are also the
same ones who don't really look. I can spot bluebirds when even good birders do
not see them. I think that this is just training.
We are having a problem with feral cats here and the city is going to pass a
bill allowing misguided people to put up feeder stations for them. These are the
same people who are picking up feral cats have them neutered and releasing them.
(We can not kill any of Gods creatures).They feel that supplemental feeding will
keep them killing song birds. Well it is my opinion that cats will kill just for
the sake of killing.
ONE FERAL CAT CAN KILL IN THREE MONTHS ALL THE BIRDS I HELPED FLEDGED THIS
YEAR.
It is estimated that one feral cat kills 1,000 songbirds in it short life
span of 2 1/2 years. If they were all HOSP that would be fine but HOSP are too
smart for cats.
I am going to speak against this city ordinance and would like some facts and
you opinion. I have the information from National Audubon Society and Keep Cats
Indoors. Any other suggestions?
Bob Wilson
(970) 242-5190
39* 06.21N 108*33.61 W
I-70 "at" the Colorado & Gunnison Rivers
THE HOME OF ALL THREE BLUEBIRD SPECIES
From: "Bruce Burdett" blueburd"at"srnet.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 6:34 AM
Subject: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
To: The Constituency,
The reports I read on these Lists increasingly suggest to me that
Bluebirds are becoming more and more common in several parts of the
continent. I have a distinct sense, based on the mail I receive from Conspirators, that they are even making
slow but measurable progress in NH, though ours is still a relatively
Bluebird-poor state. The majority of folks I speak to up here say that they
have never seen one in their lives, while others say they haven't seen one
"for decades."
I wonder if some of you are of the opinion that the Bluebird is now, in
fact, a common bird where you live. Perhaps some of you even feel that it is
time to declare victory, and that there is no longer a need to exert special
efforts on its (no apostrophe) behalf.
I'd be interested in your views, even if they are merely impressions.
Bruce Burdett, NH Bluebird Conspiracy, Sunapee NH
blueburd"at"srnet.com
P.S. This morning I heard a Person Who Is Paid To Speak (PWIPTS) pronounce
"congratulate" as "CONGRADULATE." Is this practice common in your area?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:20:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Kerry Sweet ksweet3450"at"yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Bluebirds are common
Hi all,
It is about 15 degrees here in the NE corner of Okla. this morning. We have
about 12" of snow so far and it is still snowing. The snow drifts are at least 2
ft or more.
The bluebirds that are normally at my mealworm feeder have been pretty
scarce. I put out sumac and mealworms but this morning I only had one lone male
bluebird eating mealworms. The bowl I put out with the mealworms in it ,on top
of the foot of snow we already had, was mostly covered with snow after about an
hour.
Since the temperature dropped this week I haven't seen much of the bluebirds.
I do have a flock of Cardinals that are making themselves at home and have
actually been eating the mealworms...Yes...sure surprised me!! I think we may
set some records here today. I can't remember the last time we had a snow storm
like this one.
Kerry in NE corner of Okla.
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:01:18 EST
From: JaneHopeC"at"aol.com
Subject: Re: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
Here is Southeastern NY ( Westchester County )I would say that Bluebirds are
not yet 'common' again. This is based on three things. First that very few
people I meet have ever seen one. However I do agree with Bob Wilson that most
people don't even look. In fact many people don't know what they are or look
like. Many I have spoken to think I am speaking of Bluejays until I explain.
Second I DO look and I think there are a few small flocks in the county in the
winter and about the same number breeding here in the summer. Third a statement
form the authorities at the Pound Ridge Reservation where there are a number of
bluebirds that "Eastern Bluebirds, uncommon in most of Westchester County can be
seen in Pound Ridge throughout the year". This is in their published leaflet THE
BIRDS OF POUND RIDGE RESERVATION.
Jane
Pound Ridge
NY
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:04:25 EST
From: Dinlows"at"aol.com
Subject: Re: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
Bluebirds are not "common" around central Indiana. I do see more of them but
that is probably because I'm always on the look-out. I had always seen EBB's
when in the country. I now see them closer to town.
I agree with Jane in that so many people don't have the faintest idea what a
Bluebird is and always think that is what the BlueJay is called just because
it's blue. My mother always called the Indigo Bunting a bluebird. I keep trying
to explain the difference. :^) Oh well. Hey... she's 82, and some things you
just can't change!
Linda - Ind.
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:34:43 -0800
From: Maynard R Sumner m-r-sumner"at"juno.com
Subject: Re: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
We had 14" of snow and are getting more tonight.
We need more Bluebirds in Michigan. I had 8 nest attempts, 28 eggs, 26
hatched and 24 fledged. Tree Swallow 20 attempts, 75 eggs, 72 hatched and 67
fledged. House wren 15 attempts and 3 eggs. Black-Cap Chickadee 9 attempts, 26
eggs, 26 hatched and 25 fledged. House Sparrow 31 attempts. European Starling 1
attempts.
I do not keep Sparrow or Starling.
Maynard R Sumner Flint, Michigan
Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galatian 6:7
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:44:32 -0500
From: "Brenda Best" jabbest"at"americu.net
Subject: Re: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
Bruce,
To add to what Dot said about Eastern Bluebirds in New York, that species was
removed from the NYS Endangered/Threatened List last year because the population
has come back so well.
Brenda
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Brenda Best
Durhamville, NY
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:51:23 -0800
From: Sherry Linn goldstrm"at"vip.net
Subject: Winter Feeding and Bluebird Populations
Hello to the List! I have been reading the posts, but finally decided to stop
lurking and jump back in.
Sherry here in Osoyoos, BC ... on the border of Washington State. (N 49
04.135 W 119 34.402)
It is cold here (about 10 degrees F) with only an inch or 2 of snow, but more
predicted. My feeders don't have a great variety these days but make up for it
in numbers - 100+ juncos, 80+ California Quail, 100+ American Goldfinches &
house finches, a dozen black capped chickadees, & 4 fox sparrows. They can clean
out the feeders in no time!! I feed black oil sunflower seed, mixed seed (no
house sparrows) and cracked corn.
Unfortuneately we do not have bluebirds at my elevation (2150') over winter.
There are a few small flocks of a dozen or so that stay in the valley over
winter, but most are long gone. I had Western Bluebirds in small flocks of 12 to
16 through to October 20th this year - the latest ever for Westerns. Some small
flocks of Mountain Blues were spotted in early October, but most were gone
earlier.
Our Bluebird Society nestbox returns showed 8118 bluebirds fledged this year.
This is an increase of over 1200 from 1999. On the surface one would think this
is great. However, I do not feel it is reason to celebrate (or congradulate ...
as some are wont to say). The weather played well in our area this past spring
and nearly every monitor commented on fewer sterile eggs and very few dead
nestlings. BUT there were fewer nestboxes used (Mtn 11% less and Western 6%
less). Where we had a positive was in the Western Blues - they produced, on
average, 1 more egg per box than in previous years and the fledge was up a
whopping 40%!! Bluebirds are a "common" sight only in a very few areas ... and
those are saturated with nestboxes. We have a long way to go. There are still
lots of people that have never seen a bluebird or think you mean a Stellars Jay.
The Indian Elders and some of the very longtime residents tell of the days when
the bluebird was in fact common here. I can only hope that someday it will be
again. Until then we keep spreading the word and encouraging anyone who cares to
listen.
Wishing you all the best of the holiday season and great bluebirding for
2001!
Sherry
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:23:01 -0600
From: "Molly Jo Miller" miller-johnson"at"email.msn.com
Subject: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
Hi Bruce and all,
In my little world, EAstern BLuebirds (EABL) are very common...during the
summer. I bet I have almost a 100 percent chance of seeing an EABL every time I
drive the five miles to my sons' school - not counting any in my yard. Usually
I'll see more than one as I go.
Last spring I had an EABL couple who was taking a very long time deciding to
move into one of my houses. Then it seemed like they didn't show up for a day or
two and I figured that they must have chosen another homeowner. So, what would
any sane, overanxious, prospective EABL landlord do if it appeared her home was
being rejected? I drove around the neighborhood to figure out who had stolen MY
EABLs away!
Well, I saw at least five EABL couples in about a one-mile radius. I didn't
know who to blame for wooing them away. I couldn't tell which ones were mine!
All's well that ends well...some EABL couple (probably MINE to begin with)
showed up within a couple days and started nesting.
Frankly, there isn't another bird species that I can count on seeing as
reliably, wherever I travel around southern/southeastern Minnesota, as the EABL.
Not even a Robin! Oh, such problems!
But I do miss seeing them in the winter!
Molly Jo Miller
10 miles south of St. Paul, MN
We're having a heat wave today...it got to 7 degrees above zero.
Yesterday's high was 1 degree below. However, we've had it very cushy the
last three years...this is the coldest it's been in four years! Pray that
Saturday is WARMER...I'm doing my first Christmas Bird Count.
P.S. We'd say "con graj u late" around here (sort of like refrigerate)!
-----Original Message-----
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:34:42 -0500
From: "Bruce Burdett" blueburd"at"srnet.com
Subject: CommonRareEndangeredThreatened??
To: The Constituency,
The reports I read on these Lists increasingly suggest to me that Bluebirds
are becoming more and more common in several parts of the continent. I wonder if
some of you are of the opinion that the Bluebird is now, in fact, a common bird
where you live. Perhaps some of you even feel that it is time to declare
victory, and that there is no longer a need to exert special efforts on its (no
apostrophe) behalf. I'd be interested in your views, even if they are merely
impressions.
Bruce Burdett, NH Bluebird Conspiracy, Sunapee NH
blueburd"at"srnet.com
P.S. This morning I heard a Person Who Is Paid To Speak (PWIPTS) pronounce
"congratulate" as "CONGRADULATE." Is this practice common in your area?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:08:13 -0500
To: Bluebird-L"at"cornell.edu
From: Kate Oschwald bbnestbox"at"1starnet.com
Subject: Bruce asked: Are Bluebirds common is some areas of the country?
They are common in the rural areas around Paris. I usually see as many
bluebirds as I see cardinals.
Kate Oschwald
Paris, TX
100 mi NE of Dallas
33.6853N 95.6293W
From: "emcooper" emcooper"at"bayou.com
To: bbnestbox"at"1starnet.com, Bluebird-L"at"cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Bruce asked: Are Bluebirds common is some areas of the
country?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:32:45 -0500
They are very common here year round. I see bluebirds every day of the year.
I have so many, I am searching for more places to put up boxes. There is a
wonderful water supply about a mile long that runs through our property and that
is where most of my nest boxes are located on both sides of it.
Evelyn Cooper
Delhi, La.
32.4450 Lat. N., 91.5760. Long. W., approx. 600 ft. north and east of Muddy
Slough Bluebirds along the bayous.....where we lend a helping hand!
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:40:17 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
From: "Phil Berry" mrtony8"at"mchsi.com
Subject: Re: Bruce asked: Are Bluebirds common is some areas of the
country?
BB's common in my area?
Bruce, we are receiving complaints from our neighbors here in NW Florida that we
have produced so many bluebirds that they can't go out to the mailbox without
getting them stuck to the bottoms of their shoes......
Phil Berry Gulf Breeze, Florida
From: "Bill Darnell" bdarnel3"at"bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Bruce asked: Are Bluebirds common is some areas of the
country?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:28:24 -0500
They are very common here year round. I see bluebirds every day of
...
Bluebirds are extremely common here; I give myself some of the credit, if I
may toot my horn a little. Just after Keith K mentioned BB's taking boxes from
sparrows, I saw it happen here with my own eyes. They will build in rural
mailboxes, a syrup bucket, and probably an old shoe.
Bill
TN
From: "Anne-Marie Palermino" ampalermino"at"msn.com
Subject: Re: Bruce asked: Are Bluebirds common is some areas of the
country?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:26:57 -0400
we are working at increasing their number in Rhode Island! Before moving here
I sure had never seen one in New Hampshire where we used to live. Do they
prefer warmer wheather?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:48:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Bruce asked: Are Bluebirds common is some areas of the
country?
From: Maynard R Sumner m-r-sumner"at"juno.com
...We are getting more and more Bluebirds here in Michigan, but the Tree
Swallows out number them.
Maynard Sumner
Flint, MI
From: "PTom" ptom"at"austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: Other Countries / Spreading Bluebirds
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:28:15 -0500
I've already presented this thought to some of you. Kate's Message brought it
to mind again.
Are there any ill effects we might cause if we add "too many" bluebirds? Is
there a point at which we would upset the balance of nature by adding "too many"
nestboxes? Is there ever a point when helping bluebirds and spreading the joy
that bluebirds bring becomes meddling?
Pauline Tom
Mountain City (no mountains) South Central Texas
where a bluebird population has not become established and I cannot in my
wildest imagination imagine having too many bluebirds!
Bluebirds Across Texas...one nestbox at a time
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:40:08 -0400
From: Pamela Ford jpford"at"comcast.net
Subject: Any idea of what percentage of bluebirds nest each year?
I was curious if there had been any studies on whether there were enough
cavities, natural or man-made, to support the increasing population of
bluebirds. Is it possible that some could not find suitable places to nest this
year, and therefore remain "single" - I seemed to have an unattached female in
my yard for the first half of the season. I spent some time watching 8 of the
thus far 10 fledged bluebirds in the backyard this morning. That's a lot of
bluebirds to find nesting places for next year. Also, I've had severe HOSP
problems in my trail boxes this year, eliminating some of last year's nesting
sites available for bluebirds.
Do bluebirds pair off before or after they find a nest site? If an ideal site
cannot be found are less desirable sites used? If so, to what point?
Thanks in advance,
Pam in Harford County, Maryland
From: "judymellin" judymellin"at"netzero.net
Subject: Re: Any idea of what percentage of bluebirds nest each year?
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:23:32 -0700
I think we need to look far beyond the cavity question to the habitat issue.
There are literally millions of available cavities in trees and fence posts but
just because there are cavities does not mean there is enough habitat.
Bluebirds are ground foragers and need open land to collect insects. If the tree
cavities are in areas plagued by secondary growth shrubs and brambles, the birds
can't use them.
I speak from experience since I monitor on a 600 acre restoration site. We had
made tremendous strides in clearing a 40 acre woodland and the bluebirds nested
there two years in a row. But, due to political pressures from the landowner (we
are on a county forest preserve), our restoration efforts were shut down totally
for many months and, once we could start again, our ability to burn has been
greatly curtailed. This has resulted in the forest floor becoming totally
overgrown again and, as a result, the birds have abandoned the area.
So all the cavities in the world won't make any difference until we restore
habitat for the bluebirds and many other species.
Judy Mellin
NE IL.
From: "Kathy Clark" lilbirdie2u"at"hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Any idea of what percentage of bluebirds nest each year?
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:18:49 -0400
Kathy Clark, New Cumberland, PA
And........... so does our population of wrens progress... and we need to be
watchful!!! Although protected. I have so many wrens and I feel truly there is
true bluebird habitat but it's like Judy states it is overgrown in time. We do
need to protect the house wren but be aware of its suspicious nature.
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